Converting blog posts into TGP-friendly pages

[acuteschoolgirl]

Since we were discussing the subject in another thread, and I spent the last 7 hours working on a single page, I thought I'd pass along what I did in case anyone else was looking for a process to covert a blog page into something more TGP friendly (and thanks to Shemp for giving me some pointers)

My base site is located here: http://www.schoolgirldiaries.com/SGD/

I run membership software, chat software, and a bunch of other things on my blog that make it not suitable for TGP listing. Originally I tried to copy the material to an .html post, but that was a lot of work and it wasn't super attractive.

However, I found two Wordpress plugins I could use in unison, so that I could simply create an extra TGP-friendly blog post.

First, I used Widget Context (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/widget-context/) to hide all the TGP-unfriendly widgets I used on my main site (link lists, chat windows, member login widgets, etc.). You can set it up so that certain widgets always show or never show on certain pages; you can even set it up with a wild card, so that all future posts will have the same settings.

For example, I used the term shemp* in my list of URLs, and whenever I create a new post for Shemp's gallery, I can just edit the permalink to be shemp-name-of-my-post, and it'll copy all my widget settings over from on submission to the next automatically. I also added in some other widgets just for those submission pages (like my recip to Shemp's TGP in a text widget or a recent posts), and used Widget context so that those widgets would only ever show on the shemp* posts

The second plugin I used is called WP Hide Post (http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/wp-hide-post/). The cool thing about it is that you can set posts to not show up under a bunch of conditions. Since the TGP submission posts would be ugly front page posts for my blog (and repetitive to boot, since it's copied/modified content), I simply checked all the options so that the post is pretty much invisible from the blog proper.

If you'd like to see my end result, you can check it out here: http://www.schoolgirldiaries.com/SGD...its-and-cream/

Note, to get the pictures to be pretty and lined up, I had to actually create a table in the post.

But other than that, I thought this would all end up being more complicated (and it still might be, to get past the bot that the Hun uses), but it might be a good start for anyone else looking to do TGP submissions with their blogs. I was proud of what I ended up with. Hope it helps someone save some time. And if anyone has other/better tips, I'd love to hear them too. ^^

P.S. Both plugins seem to work just fine with Wordpress 3.0

[davion]

That's a good information you've got there buddy. Thanks for posting. Will try it on my blog.

[sunfunbill]

Damn, if you have to do all that it seems easier to just make a normal HTML TGP page. Really, it would take me longer to use a blog post than to make a fresh HTML page.

[porn punk]

Originally Posted by sunfunbill

Damn, if you have to do all that it seems easier to just make a normal HTML TGP page. Really, it would take me longer to use a blog post than to make a fresh HTML page.

The idea is to at least save your home link and a couple extras and feed your blog from the tgp traffic. I don't know where this myth of tgp traffic being bad came from. There was just no way to feed blogs with it directly until recently. I understand it's not as good as SEO, but it's definitely better than buying traffic and Shemp definitely is one of the best tgp's around. Also he posts your submissions even though it's just a submit account.

With tgp's you don't want to post just once and forget about it, and once you have a template (or 2 or 3) or a procedure, it's just as easy as anything else.

[sunfunbill]

Hmmm, well I'll have to study this more. Anytime I can get more traffic that wants to see my niche is good because it converts well. So nobody is going to click on my submission unless they want to see that niche.

I'll go to Shemp's site and check out all the rules and so on for a blog submission. Maybe I'll do a few just to see how it goes, I'm running out of traffic the way I've been doing it. Thanks.

[acuteschoolgirl]

Oh no, that's only to set it up the first time, and it only took me that long because I was researching and playing with stuff (and I was exhausted before I even started)!

As of now, I can create a new post, copy the html from the old one to the new one, swap out pictures and text, and click all the hide buttons for WP Hide Post. I could probably create a new submission in about 30-40m, and the largest portion of that time is resizing and watermarking my pictures, uploading them, and changing their padding settings.

Actually, I'd call this process: making your blog TGP friendly. After that, you can take the tables you'd use for any static html page and just throw them into a blog post. The idea (I think) is that blog posts are actually more novel than a plain old gallery, because of your pretty theme and widgets, and it's easier to get them to click onto your blog proper because they understand they're going to a blog.

Even if they wouldn't go straight to a sponsor (that browser tends to ignore sponsor links as a general rule), they might be interested in checking out your other posts.

The only extra time I'll invest now is probably working up different table layouts to keep the design of the posts fresh.

[sunfunbill]

Just to expand on this, you can also do this if you have your sidebars made different for each category. Most of my blogs I don't use widgets but hard code them.

I then add code so that all sidebars are different for each category. So you could just make a category for TGP post and put whatever you want in the sidebars for that category.

You could make as many categories as you want so you get different things in your sidebars. I think I'll go and try to submit a few blog post doing that once I understand the rules and maybe sign up for some accounts. Thanks.

[Latinluvin]

Scew all that. Why not just make some videos of yourself with your link running along the bottom and upload it to as many tube sites as possible. TGP's are so 2001

[acuteschoolgirl]

Yeah, that's probably the way to do it Bill. My blog still won't pass the Hun's bot checker, so I'm guessing you'd need to edit template files and stuff. For now I'll just stick to other TGPs and see how that goes. But I have to admit, I love my widgets. I'd be very sad not to use them.

And I don't know, I don't really like Tube sites. I mean if you want to watch a video or something, sure, that's the place to go, but I'm uncertain about how well it would convert. I mean a tube is already sooooo free, it seems hard to make a leap from giving everything away to asking for money for the porn you're selling. I bet the sites that do best via tubes are the big, megaporn sites that sell high quality video downloads for pennies. I find it hard to believe it would fit my model.

I sell less porn, for a whole lot more, and I only give free stuff away on my site. If they want free stuff, they can come hang out with me. I don't see the point in feeding tube sites, especially when the only thing I really have to sell is the content that I create that's exclusive. It's just more than I'm willing to give away.

[Latinluvin]

Originally Posted by acuteschoolgirl

And I don't know, I don't really like Tube sites. I mean if you want to watch a video or something, sure, that's the place to go, but I'm uncertain about how well it would convert. I mean a tube is already sooooo free, it seems hard to make a leap from giving everything away to asking for money for the porn you're selling. I bet the sites that do best via tubes are the big, megaporn sites that sell high quality video downloads for pennies. I find it hard to believe it would fit my model.

I sell less porn, for a whole lot more, and I only give free stuff away on my site. If they want free stuff, they can come hang out with me. I don't see the point in feeding tube sites, especially when the only thing I really have to sell is the content that I create that's exclusive. It's just more than I'm willing to give away.

Here's what you do. Make a video specifically for marketing purposes. Don't show anything. Just tease the bastards. I did this last year to see how much traffic I got. I got my gf to pose topless, face hidden of course, and show her boobs while dancing to a video. It helps that I have a big boob site and she has huge boobs. I put my sites link to scroll across the screen every now and then.

I went from about 300 pageviews to 700 over night. So it works. I tried it on yuvutu but now they charge like $5 a video upload or at least I think it's 5. Tubes get way more traffic then tgp these days so I'd try it just to see if it worked for you.

[acuteschoolgirl]

Well hey, that sounds fair enough. I'll do it! Thanks for the idea and the persuasion Latin. ^^

[porn punk]

I would be very suprised if ever make a conversion in your life posting to a tube. If you think TGP ratios or bad, wait until you waist your entire day cutting video and uploading to tubes (some where you don't even have a direct link back).

If you like to watch numbers climb on your stat counter, then start submitting to tubes, but you can get a percentage of those numbers from tgp's (still, I think) and still make a few conversions that at least cover the cost at the very least while building traffic.

Of course I don't know how everyone is actually making their cash and I'm thinking more along the lines of affiliate marketing... Also I was pretty good at building galleries that would convert for me and choosing the right sponsors and content to use.

P.S. also it takes time and work also. Most people that tell you how things don't work haven't actually done it the way it's supposed to be done or think they have and haven't. Show me someone that did submissions from sunrise to sunset for around 6 months straight (to tgp's and link lists and whatever else you may have) while building up a network of different domains and subdomains and I'll show you someone with a lot of content and traffic to recycle and reuse.

[acuteschoolgirl]

Thanks for the point of view and perspective Porn Punk. I kinda don't feel like tubes are the place to covert. If I did anything with them it would be completely amateur and not cut more than cropped at the start and end (a complete marketing tool). I've actually been working on video for another site, and shooting porn is a lot more difficult then it seems. Right now I'm sad that I don't have another 2 cameras.

[porn punk]

They are a good vehicle for content delivery for the surfers so that needs to be taken into account, but you need mega traffic to get anything out of those.

Probably good for straight advertising though like Latin is suggesting I think. I'm planning on finding that out myself too in the near future if I can get what I want going and need straight up advertising without immediate conversions.

[Latinluvin]

But she's got content that's not available any where else. If anything this type of marketing is extremely targeted. If a guy is willing to take the time to type in his browser her web address then he is more likely to fork over some cash. As long as a person is physically sitting behind that computer and looking at your site, then you've got a chance. If he likes what you got and can't get it anywhere else, and he wants to see it bad enough then yeah he'll pay.

I agree using the tubes to promote afiiliates is a bad idea. You won't make shit doing that since your affiliates are probably giving away most of their goods for free anyway on those same tubes anyway.

Just don't give the farm away on the videos and you'll convert. Tease them but don't show them anything. Make them want to sign up and buy your stuff. Guys want what they cant have and if you create a demand, you have a leg up over all the other free crap out there.

Guys who look at tubes also pay for porn too. The tubes are getting redundant. Mark my words. There will be a tube backlash in the not too distant future.

[acuteschoolgirl]

Thanks a ton for all the advice! Every post and every point of view makes me think and understand more about what I'm doing. I'll definitely try out the tube sites for some direct marketing/traffic building. I already work Youtube and even Facebook (I know, I'm evil and unethical!) with very softcore, PG-13 posts/recordings. So the tube sites seem easy enough; I'll just use them to post marketing stuff only.

An update on building for the Hun: You have to edit your template a bunch to get past the bot there. You're pretty much not allowed to use any <script> tags at all, which kind of sucks. Also, blog submissions on the Hun are limited to one every 30 days (I might be wrong about this), which is also kind of harsh.

What I did was, create the page like I would have for any other, less-picky TGP, and then I viewed the source code and copied that into an editor. I removed all the <script> code, and then uploaded the file as a .html file to my server. At that point the submission would have gone through.

But I think, honestly, galleries are still better for the Hun, so I just went a step further and edited out a bunch of my blog-looking content (sidebar, header, etc.) and created an easy template that I can use for future submissions. I'm pretty sure it'll count as a gallery instead of a blog submission, and I can send one of those every 3-4 days instead.

At this point, not sure if any of this helps anyone anymore, but my Hun submission looks like this: http://www.schoolgirldiaries.com/TGP...010_07_30.html

[HB|Sergio]

Thanks for information.

[acuteschoolgirl]

As an update, despite all of that, I finally just decided to html galleries because they seemed cleaner, and converted traffic to clicks better. So, if you want to submit a blog, all that works, but it's just as easy to create some beautiful submit templates and swap stuff in/out of them; you can even carefully edit out a "view source" page of your blog and make a template off of your blog theme.